My Energy supplier has gone bust.

Why would you have an economy 7 tariff. ... do you all use night storage heaters?
 
I got stuck with the economy seven meter as my place is a barn conversion and was previously part of a farm complex
I’ve always wanted to change but got fobbed off several times by different suppliers it’ll still happen I’m hoping ,
 
I got stuck with the economy seven meter as my place is a barn conversion and was previously part of a farm complex
I’ve always wanted to change but got fobbed off several times by different suppliers it’ll still happen I’m hoping ,

Have you ever tried (or been persuaded) to have a smart meter installed.
Ours is an old house and we inherited the economy 7 meter too. When they came round to install a smart meter he told me he couldn’t.
Not that I really want one but saw it as a way of getting rid of old meter.
 
Have you ever tried (or been persuaded) to have a smart meter installed.
Ours is an old house and we inherited the economy 7 meter too. When they came round to install a smart meter he told me he couldn’t.
Not that I really want one but saw it as a way of getting rid of old meter.
yeah a couple of times. I didn't like the pushy persuasion id of preferred a reasoned argument...
 
Having an economy 7 meter precludes you from many of the small suppliers and the better single rate tariffs.
Symbio had a single rate tariff for those with a dual meter.
Further there may be a high daily standing charge for a dual meter.
 
I can see no technical reason why you can't replace a dual rate meter with a single rate smart meter.
Perhaps there is a paperwork reason.
 
Having an economy 7 meter precludes you from many of the small suppliers and the better single rate tariffs.
Symbio had a single rate tariff for those with a dual meter.
Further there may be a high daily standing charge for a dual meter.
are there any small suppliers, sorry middle men fooking hangeronners left?
 
I can see no technical reason why you can't replace a dual rate meter with a single rate smart meter.
Perhaps there is a paperwork reason.
As far as I can make out it’s a vicious circle.

They come to fit smart meter and say they can’t fit it because I’m on a night / day tariff.

I can’t change to a single tariff because I have a night / day meter.

Fuck em.

Having an economy 7 meter precludes you from many of the small suppliers and the better single rate tariffs.
Symbio had a single rate tariff for those with a dual meter.
Further there may be a high daily standing charge for a dual meter.

With what’s happening now are the small suppliers even worth considering still ?
One of the reasons I haven’t before.
 
We've energy monitoring software running here and our lowest kW/h rate to date is 0.99kW/h Day and 1.17kW/h at night (automatic security/courtesy lamps).
That is with everything turned off except.
Fridge/Freezers x3 (one to be decommissioned soon)
Boilers/Control/pumps x3 (two active/swap and one hot standby).
Circulating hot water pump 24/7 (I know it needs changing)
CCTV / DVR records... various
TV/Satellite distribution boxes
Alexa (f'ing loads)
Alarms (Fire/CO and Intruder).
Electric Gate controllers x2.
Emergency lighting system
Various automatic lighting controllers.

And.... 13 standby battery tenders.

It's amazing how much is taken just on standby across many devices.
 
We tend to just live in one wing of the house. Saves heating and other unnecessary electrical devices.
I've suggested the same to the wife.
Library... ive been in half a dozen times this year... heated 24/7... music room.... nearly never.... guest rooms... all heated... grrrrrr
 
I've suggested the same to the wife.
Library... ive been in half a dozen times this year... heated 24/7... music room.... nearly never.... guest rooms... all heated... grrrrrr
Coach house and my office... no heating, just ac.
 
I've suggested the same to the wife.
Library... ive been in half a dozen times this year... heated 24/7... music room.... nearly never.... guest rooms... all heated... grrrrrr
Move in to one wing and go with a reliable supplier then. Problem solved.
 
My new tariff with Shell Energy. I'll hunt about as I'm free to switch, but I fear there'll be nothing out there right now. 🤷‍♂️

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As far as I can make out it’s a vicious circle.

They come to fit smart meter and say they can’t fit it because I’m on a night / day tariff.

I can’t change to a single tariff because I have a night / day meter.

Fuck em.



With what’s happening now are the small suppliers even worth considering still ?
One of the reasons I haven’t before.
But there are no small suppliers surely, they’re all just middlemen buying in bulk at wholesale prices off National Grid and then selling on at retail to the consumer. The Govt/OFGEM need to take a long hard look at the entire market (and the affect banks have on it with their trading arms) and ensure fuel security for their respective nations (and money in their own pockets🙁).
 
But there are no small suppliers surely, they’re all just middlemen buying in bulk at wholesale prices off National Grid and then selling on at retail to the consumer. The Govt/OFGEM need to take a long hard look at the entire market (and the affect banks have on it with their trading arms) and ensure fuel security for their respective nations (and money in their own pockets🙁).
in common person speak, the middle men and women, need to feck off and the supply of essentials like gas electric water should be run in the interests of the country, not greedy share holders.

And this is what I don't understand take HS2 why are my hard paid taxes paying for this shit for it to then be handed over to a group to make a profit on to which I then don't see a return for my tax investment!
 
But there are no small suppliers surely, they’re all just middlemen buying in bulk at wholesale prices off National Grid and then selling on at retail to the consumer. The Govt/OFGEM need to take a long hard look at the entire market (and the affect banks have on it with their trading arms) and ensure fuel security for their respective nations (and money in their own pockets🙁).
Like Andy says really.

They’ve all been happy enough making big profits the last, what, 40-50 years.

(Since the bastard Tories gave them the chance to perhaps ?).
 
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