Diet
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Well.. Firstly Dr Saira Hameed is a woman and secondly she doesn't promote carbs in the diet: precisely the opposite.
She explains how the modern obesity epidemic is caused not by natural fats or excess calories, but by refined sugars and simple (processed) carbs which raise blood sugar.
High blood sugar is dangerous, particularly for the brain, so the body produces insulin to get rid of it. But it can't force it from the body so instead it converts sugar molecules into fat cells which the blood stream sheds as it circulates round the body by dumping it, firstly in the liver, then around the other visceral organs (visceral fat which causes heart attacks) then in the musculature and lastly subcutaneously under the skin, which is the fat that makes you look fat and makes your clothes tight.
By eating only foods which promote natural and healthy blood sugar regulation this insulin driven sugar to fat conversion doesn't occur and your body goes from fat storage mode to fat burning mode and the weight falls off you without you even trying, counting calories or going hungry.
She also points up the poisonous properties of ultra-processed food which destroy your gut biology and plays havoc with the messaging between gut and brain, disabling the body's natural ability to regulate appetite, and which is loaded with artificial additives listed under various euphemisms such as "acidity regulator" "anti-gelling agent" etc (e-numbers in old parlance) which are addictive and induce food cravings and are probably added deliberately to make you crave and so buy more of that product.
Basically this book shouldn't be necessary. She's telling you purely and simply to eat food - and only food - which is natural and which the human body has evolved to thrive on. It's old fashioned common sense but explained scientifically. She's re-educating us to eat like our grandparents used to. If you do that and you are fat, you will lose the weight without trying; and if you are not fat your health will improve immeasurably and you will never become fat because your metabolism will self-regulate again, as it is supposed to, and you will be able to withstand the normal pangs of hunger between meals without experiencing food cravings and you will not overeat. Furthermore, your immune system is restored to full strength and your diet becomes naturally anti-inflammatory eliminating a multitude of modern ailments.
I can attest to this because I bought this book and followed it. I wanted to lose a small amount of weight, a stone or so, control my blood pressure which was exhibiting dangerous spikes, and generally feel less ill and old. I suspected diet was the answer, so I followed this and the stone of weight evaporated practically while I watched and other unexpected things occurred also, like my chronic lower back pain and gum disease disappearing - both a result of correcting through diet cellular inflammation.
Honestly, this is no fad diet book. In fact it's not really a diet book at all. It's all school wisdom couched in modern dietary language and it's revelatory.
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I didn’t suggest it was a fad diet. The pictures show a lot of veg and what looks like couscous, both of which contain carbs. Which will stop ketosis which as I’m sure you know, is when your body switches from using glucose, to running off fat.
Taking ultra processed rubbish out of your diet will help everyone.
On Thursday, I was with seven other adults between 22 and about 60yo. They had had breakfast - some of them had big hotel breakfasts. By 1pm they were fretting over getting something to eat as the restaurant we had booked for 5pm was too long for them to go.
I hadn’t eaten since a 2 egg omelette about 8pm the previous evening. I wasn’t especially hungry by the time we got our food at the restaurant. They’d stopped for sandwiches a couple of hours earlier, and they all had 3 courses. I had a steak and bearnaise sauce, and about half a dozen of the chunky chips it came with, just because they were there. I often go 24 hours or more between eating because I only eat when I want something.
As I said in my previous post, it’s only when I cut out veg that things really came together.
The carbs in the veg kept me carb addicted, so when I’d lose enough weight, I’d get back into eating crap with the more carbs the better, and so the yo-yoing would continue.
Until you’ve done a few weeks of just meat and eggs, you can’t grasp just what it’s like. Fasting can give a similar feeling (mental clarity from about 72 hours on a water fast gives you the supercharged feeling).
Last weekend I didn’t eat on the day of my boxing match. For one, I wasn’t hungry, and secondly, I know eating takes the edge off. I feel like a rest after eating. Because I’m fat adapted I never get any peaks and troughs in energy.
Taking ultra processed rubbish out of your diet will help everyone.
On Thursday, I was with seven other adults between 22 and about 60yo. They had had breakfast - some of them had big hotel breakfasts. By 1pm they were fretting over getting something to eat as the restaurant we had booked for 5pm was too long for them to go.
I hadn’t eaten since a 2 egg omelette about 8pm the previous evening. I wasn’t especially hungry by the time we got our food at the restaurant. They’d stopped for sandwiches a couple of hours earlier, and they all had 3 courses. I had a steak and bearnaise sauce, and about half a dozen of the chunky chips it came with, just because they were there. I often go 24 hours or more between eating because I only eat when I want something.
As I said in my previous post, it’s only when I cut out veg that things really came together.
The carbs in the veg kept me carb addicted, so when I’d lose enough weight, I’d get back into eating crap with the more carbs the better, and so the yo-yoing would continue.
Until you’ve done a few weeks of just meat and eggs, you can’t grasp just what it’s like. Fasting can give a similar feeling (mental clarity from about 72 hours on a water fast gives you the supercharged feeling).
Last weekend I didn’t eat on the day of my boxing match. For one, I wasn’t hungry, and secondly, I know eating takes the edge off. I feel like a rest after eating. Because I’m fat adapted I never get any peaks and troughs in energy.
Further, our grandparents and older never ate the vast majority of what is called food these days because it didn’t exist.
The vegetables we have today are hybridised…not what older generations were eating.
Grass fed beef and lamb and wild seafoods are probably the food which is closest to what our parents and every previous generation was eating.
The vegetables we have today are hybridised…not what older generations were eating.
Grass fed beef and lamb and wild seafoods are probably the food which is closest to what our parents and every previous generation was eating.
Not all veg is carb heavy. I avoid those that are: parsnips, spuds, sweet potatoes etc, and bulk up on those which are low carb and high protein: legumes, dark greens, brassicas and sprouts, cauliflour and cruciferous veg etc. As well as high-lycopene veg - tomatoes, peppers, chilies, red cabbage, aubergines.
Similarly I avoid high sugar fruits: grapes, bananas, pineapple, mango etc, in favour of apples, pears, berries, kiwis, pomegranates, citrus fruits, plums.
I don't eat like this to lose weight because I don't need to lose any weight. I'll eat spuds and parsnips occasionally as a treat with a roast dinner because they're nice. I wouldn't if I was needing to lose weight, but as I don't a little bit of what you fancy just now and then does no harm at all.
But in general my diet has changed because I'm nearly 60 and you need to adjust diet with age: more protein to combat muscle loss and more lycopenes to protect against age-related diseases like cancer. Lycopenes are particularly important for men because they're a powerful weapon against prostate cancer - every man over 50 should up their lycopene intake, the most concentrated form of which is tomato puree or pasata.
We’ll have to disagree on lypocenes. All I’ve ever seen around them contains lots of ‘suggests’ ‘might’ ‘could’ etc. what exactly is the ‘powerful’ agent within them?
Sticking to facts, the only food group that can provide every essential nutrient for human life. Is meat.
As far as cancers are concerned, tumour cancers need glucose to grow. The body will produce glucose for those functions which require it. There is no requirement to take in glucose through food (all carbs metabolise into glucose).
18 months in, and seeing how my bodily functions have improved over that time (had 2 colds in that time, and then directly after taking in carbs. Nails and hair grows more than twice as fast as they used to. Virtually no muscle ache after strenuous and new exercise; the day after the boxing, apart from a sore nose and side of my head, and a sore neck, I could’ve fought again. To me, these point to optimal nutrition. Why would your body works so well in such functions if it was missing any nutrients?
I started this thread after a year of being carnivore - I didn’t want to say anything before that in case any negatives arose. I’m now 18 months in, and still can’t think of anything negative to say. I know it’s counter to what we’ve been told ‘the science’ dictates, but when you see that the science has been corrupt for the last 50 + years by those with vested interests and unlimited funds, then doing what counters that, makes sense. I made the thread as it’s something I know works through doing it myself, and like to share beneficial info with those I like and want to see thrive
Sticking to facts, the only food group that can provide every essential nutrient for human life. Is meat.
As far as cancers are concerned, tumour cancers need glucose to grow. The body will produce glucose for those functions which require it. There is no requirement to take in glucose through food (all carbs metabolise into glucose).
18 months in, and seeing how my bodily functions have improved over that time (had 2 colds in that time, and then directly after taking in carbs. Nails and hair grows more than twice as fast as they used to. Virtually no muscle ache after strenuous and new exercise; the day after the boxing, apart from a sore nose and side of my head, and a sore neck, I could’ve fought again. To me, these point to optimal nutrition. Why would your body works so well in such functions if it was missing any nutrients?
I started this thread after a year of being carnivore - I didn’t want to say anything before that in case any negatives arose. I’m now 18 months in, and still can’t think of anything negative to say. I know it’s counter to what we’ve been told ‘the science’ dictates, but when you see that the science has been corrupt for the last 50 + years by those with vested interests and unlimited funds, then doing what counters that, makes sense. I made the thread as it’s something I know works through doing it myself, and like to share beneficial info with those I like and want to see thrive
I'm not trying to derail your thread Dox or dispute your experiences with diet. I hadn't realised you'd started this thread as a discussion of your carnivore diet as I wasn't around here when it was first posted and I haven't read it from page 1. I've just dipped in since returning.
While I love fruit and vegetables and a mixed diet, mine remains meat-heavy. I've consciously upped my intake of animal protein as I'm getting older. After reading the aforementioned book I've significantly increased my consumption of unprocessed animal fats and cut out all processed vegetable oils except pure olive and rapeseed oil. My input really was regarding weight loss which still seems to be unnecessarily mysterious to a lot of people.
As for lycopenes the final verdict is not yet in, but laboratory research has shown that they shrink cancer cells and the circumstantial evidence is that those cultures whose diet is high in lycopenes have the lowest rates of cancers. Either way, I eat a lot of tomatoes because I love them. I just wish we in the UK could grow the quality of tomatoes they enjoy in Greece of Italy (the best tomatoes on earth - IMO - are Greek).
Anyway, I'm not disputing what you say, just chipping in because I'm interested. This is a subject close to my heart, literally and figuratively. Crack on bud.
While I love fruit and vegetables and a mixed diet, mine remains meat-heavy. I've consciously upped my intake of animal protein as I'm getting older. After reading the aforementioned book I've significantly increased my consumption of unprocessed animal fats and cut out all processed vegetable oils except pure olive and rapeseed oil. My input really was regarding weight loss which still seems to be unnecessarily mysterious to a lot of people.
As for lycopenes the final verdict is not yet in, but laboratory research has shown that they shrink cancer cells and the circumstantial evidence is that those cultures whose diet is high in lycopenes have the lowest rates of cancers. Either way, I eat a lot of tomatoes because I love them. I just wish we in the UK could grow the quality of tomatoes they enjoy in Greece of Italy (the best tomatoes on earth - IMO - are Greek).
Anyway, I'm not disputing what you say, just chipping in because I'm interested. This is a subject close to my heart, literally and figuratively. Crack on bud.
It wasn't taken that way, the thread is to encourage debate. The point I try to make is that by cutting right back to just the food group that can provide every nutireint we need, leads to a level of health I'd not experienced before. When I have introduced something back in, like last christmas I had a few roasties and mash, and some pudding, I felt absolutely awful the next day.
If I'm eating out the options are virtually always just a burger without the bread or garnish, or steak the same. Invariably it'll come with chips and sometimes I'll have a few just because they're there, but don't really enjoy them like I think I will which is good because it stops me eating them all.
It's the ultimate elimination diet.
That article is all over the place...
Cholesterol is vital for the brain, so reducing it is counter to requirements.
Saturated fat doesn't cause arterial plaque...never has...studies that claimed it did ignored their own findings that showed it didn't. The info was in the studies - people just read the conclusions which didn't tally with the findings.
I agree that eggs are good for health though - perfectly nutricious.
Surprising link between eggs and dementia and what doctors got wrong
The item has long been demonized for their high fat and cholesterol content.
Had a few today, lovely.Surprising link between eggs and dementia and what doctors got wrong
The item has long been demonized for their high fat and cholesterol content.www.dailymail.co.uk
I was reading today about sugars. I'm not going to lie, I like it but the article reflected on sugars impact but particularly Fructose
www.dailymail.co.uk
Common ingredient in some of your favorite foods turbocharges cancer
New research from WashU found that tumors are able to use a certain kind of sugar to build more quickly - making cancer more aggressive and deadly.
I was reading today about sugars. I'm not going to lie, I like it but the article reflected on sugars impact but particularly Fructose
Common ingredient in some of your favorite foods turbocharges cancer
New research from WashU found that tumors are able to use a certain kind of sugar to build more quickly - making cancer more aggressive and deadly.
“Added fructose is different from fruit fructose, a natural sugar found in fruits that is typically accompanied by fiber and other nutrients”
Fibre isn’t a nutritient - there is zero requirement for it in the human diet.
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This is fascinating. If I watch it 10 times I won't take it all in but the gist is simple:
Bookmarked for later ...
Interesting. Food must still be the major factor in gaining and losing weight, because people change their weight by changing what they eat but still having the same routine otherwise.
There are so many variables aren’t there. I don’t fully understand what he was explaining (gross understatement there) but some of it is widely recognised; that saunas and heat help fat loss - just that the mechanism for that is the heat produces infrared light.
Just bought 13.5 kg of scotch fillet ( rib eye to you poms...) export grade ( it's all export grade over here) for $350.00 kiwi $'s... bout $25 a kg. It's 35 -40 atm at the supermarket so I've done good. Should last us a few weeks or so!!!
Down side is I now need to go buy a vacume sealer sooner rather than later!
Down side is I now need to go buy a vacume sealer sooner rather than later!
I use to get a whole ribeye for £9 before it became popular. I would get 7 to 9 large steaks out of it. After it suddenly became popular it went up to £27 overnight. That was about 14 years ago I guess.
Probably a Lil longer back than that I'd say.. only as I had a BBQ business in London around 2006/7 and we were paying 7-10 £/kg for Scottish Angus rump and good rib eye was nearly double that then ( english shit was cheaper obviously) I like all cuts of steak , different cuts for different jobs but scotch/rib eye is my favorite. This stuff is melt in ya mouth flavor!!!! I butcher em at about 180-200 grams a steak so we got enough for a few steaks each a week for a good few months ( 2 of us)...
Had a Lil taster tonight with left over BBQ chicken in a fried rice I made, to good a cut for such a dish but fuck me it is nice!!!
Tomorrow I'll go full Monty with a stilton sauce and fried eggs!!!
I'll probably leave a chunk ( 1 5 kg ish) whole for a roast at some point, got a mean way of slow cooking it, covered in BBQ sauce!!!
150-200g steaks? Did you eat two or three at a time?
Or are you only three foot tall?
I got my meat from a guy I use to game shoot with.
He delivered cattle around the country so we got it cheap.
It was great while it lasted but like all good things it came to an end.
He delivered cattle around the country so we got it cheap.
It was great while it lasted but like all good things it came to an end.
300-330g pre-cook weight for rump steak is perfect, assuming you aren't a midget or some kind of girly.