Carbon wrapping

West Cork Paul

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Well, I said I’d give it a go so here goes.

The customer asked for the bash plate on his Pikes Peak V4S to be carbon fibre wrapped in order it blends in with all the CF add-ons he’s got on his bike. I could have farmed to job out to a detailer in Cork but it’s something I’ve fancied learning for a good while so so thought I’d give it a go. Worst case it’s going to cost me some time and the cost of the vinyl so here goes.

The first thing I had to do was to learn about the different types of vinyl wrap available. There’s thousands of resellers out there on eBay and Amazon selling carbon fibre wrap by various cut lengths (it comes in rolls from the manufacturer that are typically 60” wide by 20-25mtrs long - don’t even bother to ask why one dimension is imperial and the other metric) and they’re all different prices for what appears from photos to look the same.

Vinyl wraps falls into 2 types (ignoring colour and finish) calendered and cast. The former is made by squeezing the liquid vinyl between 2 massive rollers, the latter is made by pouring liquid vinyl into a moving mould. Cast vinyl is about 3x the price of calendared vinyl, but, it’s significantly more pliable and flexible. If you were doing big flat(ish) panels you might use calandered but if doing small intricate parts with several curves etc such as motorcycle body panels you definitely want to use cast vinyl and the best make is by 3M.

First job was to track down a supplier as I don’t want, or need a full 25mtr roll. Fortunately there’s a wrapping/detailing business in Cork who’s also a 3M reseller and he very kindly agreed to sell me just 1mtr of the stuff. €82 though. As an example calendered wrap was just €26/mtr.

First things first, got to break the bash plate into its 3 constituent parts and then remove all the fittings off it.
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Next, cut some wrap that’s big enough to do each part.
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I started with the centre part as that’s got the easiest shape to it, bar the indentations and channels.
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The part was decreased with isopropyl alcohol, dried with a clean microfibre cloth them the vinyl stripped of its backing and laid on the part.

Starting from the centre push outwards with the squeegee spreader thingy - the blue thing in the photos. This pushes any air bubbles to the edges.

The 3M film is very pliable and very easy to be work with. If you’re not happy simply peel it off and reapply it. Use the squeegee to push it into the indents. Apply a little heat with a heat gun if necessary to soften it further and it can then be stretched into the indents easily.

Once done, flip it over

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Now trim it, especially the corners, as you don’t want the material to bunch, and start to stick it down on the inside.

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I made a small X in the screw holes so the bolts can pass through when I reassemble it, and made 4 cuts in an asterisk * shape for the larger hole where the fuel tank drain passes through.

Finally, 45 mins later, my very first wrapped piece is completed 👍 and, whilst I don’t want to jinx it for the other pieces, I’m quite pleased with the end result.
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Now to do the 2 more awkward shaped bits.
 

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Did you know you can buy a kit that wraps it in real carbon fibre.
 
Did you know you can buy a kit that wraps it in real carbon fibre.
No, I didn’t. Thanks. Do you have a link please? Or a name and I’ll do some more research.

I’m wondering how that would work, with real carbon fibre 🤔. I’m aware of hydro-dipping but that’s a much thinner and less durable coating so I didn’t consider it for this item due to its placement under the bike, in the line of fire if the front wheel.
 
I did my 1098 exhaust heat shield with it
Basically you mix a black undercoat let it almost dry then lay carbon fibre on it. Then sand it. You then mix up a clearcoat which is basically resin and coat it and then when dry you treat it like fresh paint, polish it
Google easy composites
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Been playing around with paint protection film too. Had to cover these two heel guards, they’re genuine CF and would only get scuffed to bits, hopefully the PPF will save them.

The PPF is not as conformable as the vinyl wrap, doesn’t really like heat and is a bugger to cut even with a new scalpel blade. Still it’s tough stuff so should hold up.


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Been playing around with paint protection film too. Had to cover these two heel guards, they’re genuine CF and would only get scuffed to bits, hopefully the PPF will save them.

The PPF is not as conformable as the vinyl wrap, doesn’t really like heat and is a bugger to cut even with a new scalpel blade. Still it’s tough stuff so should hold up.


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You’re getting really good at this👍👍👍

Any hints, tips, hacks etc that would help a newbie to this, that you have found, please?

I would be interested in doing a few bits and pieces myself🙂
 
Been playing around with paint protection film too. Had to cover these two heel guards, they’re genuine CF and would only get scuffed to bits, hopefully the PPF will save them.

The PPF is not as conformable as the vinyl wrap, doesn’t really like heat and is a bugger to cut even with a new scalpel blade. Still it’s tough stuff so should hold up.


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I admire your skills but doesn't wrapping carbon fibre in plastic just make the part look like pseudo CF?
 
Been playing around with paint protection film too. Had to cover these two heel guards, they’re genuine CF and would only get scuffed to bits, hopefully the PPF will save them.

The PPF is not as conformable as the vinyl wrap, doesn’t really like heat and is a bugger to cut even with a new scalpel blade. Still it’s tough stuff so should hold up.


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I hope you're charging by the hour?

How long did they take to do?
 
I admire your skills but doesn't wrapping carbon fibre in plastic just make the part look like pseudo CF?
Possibly, yes. The PPF comes in either a gloss or Matt finish. I happened to have bought gloss because it was a fall back if I couldn’t source a kit for this bike (MultiV4SPP) so I used what I had to hand hence the glossy finish. I will probably get some matt finish PPF and when the bike comes back for its first service in 1000km time I’ll swap the PPF. However, it was applied as a necessity to prevent the carbon fibre heel guards getting scuffed which they otherwise would.

As for the bash plate - well, there’s no point having a genuine CF bash plate as it would just fracture upon impact with anything (not that he’ll be going off road) but to match the rest of the bike (it’s now dripping in CF) he asked for me to find someone to wrap it so I thought ‘here’s an opportunity to learn’👍.

Mind you, due to its proximity to the exhaust I took the precaution of applying heat reflective tape on the inside to prevent or minimise the vinyl wrap from yellowing with heat.

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I hope you're charging by the hour?

How long did they take to do?
I wish 🤣. Each heel guard took about 20-30 mins to get it just right. The bash plate took about 45 mins for the first piece, the base plate which is a relatively straightforward shape; 20 mins for the second (the LHS piece) as I was more used to it but then 45 again for the RHS piece as it was a much more awkward shape with bends that go in 2 different directions.

It’s a learning exercise so I’ll only charge for the materials.
 
You’re getting really good at this👍👍👍

Any hints, tips, hacks etc that would help a newbie to this, that you have found, please?

I would be interested in doing a few bits and pieces myself🙂
Thanks.
In my very limited experience, when wrapping with vinyl make sure you get a cast vinyl not a calendared vinyl, the cast is much much more pliable when heated. 3M and Avery are apparently the best out there.

It comes in 25mtr rolls each about 1.5mtrs wide so you’ll have to buy a small section of it. However, many sellers of small cuts of it on eBay and Amazon advertise it as 3M or cast but it’s not, they’re ripping customers off, so I found it best to find a detailer or 3M reseller in person who will sell you however much you need. The other good thing about buying it from someone who actually uses it professionally is they will also have the other things you need eg, scalpels, squeegee that’s just the right flexibility, not too rigid and not too soft, and the isopropyl alcohol spray you’ll need to clean the item prior to wrapping.

For PPF, again 3m or Xpel are the industry leaders and there are a variety of different grades at different price points naturally.

Just watch some YT vids and practice, take your time, don’t overheat the vinyl (or PPF) and you’ll actually find it’s not too difficult.

The CF wrap above I put on dry as it didn’t need to be repositioned just trimmed, the PPF I used a soapy solution even though it was a rough shape cut out off a roll which was then trimmed. For vinyl graphics and when I do the PPF on the bike’s body work, which have been pre-cut and have to be exactly positioned, I’ll be using lots of soapy water.
 
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