OK, I love her dearly but she,s so noisy at the wrong moments.

seant

seant

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Right I've got the SC 1000s and love it...still in the early days but have got the first servce over and been able to open things up.
Woww,, hanging on for dear life with a big grin on.. revs are rising hedges are passing but I still can't get a smooth down change say from 4th on!
Is it just me , am I expecting too much?
Advise please on the back of a Newci Brown label.
Yours,
Not quite sure.:confused:
 
Still having gear trouble then Sean? Are you sure your clutch is disengaging properly?, mine drags a bit since I had the bigger slave fitted and I must really get it bled but I've not had the chance yet. Pity you didn't live a bit closer and you could compare it to mine directly.
 
what bike did you have before Sean? getting used to a down change on a big twin does take a bit of getting used to, i used to flame out me RC51 on downshifts when i first got that.
 
Yeh, but the mechanic at DG thouht it was sweet, so I,m thinking it's my riding style or something.
Don't think the clutch drags, does yours really clunk into first from neut and then up into second when moving off?
 
seant said:
Yeh, but the mechanic at DG thouht it was sweet, so I,m thinking it's my riding style or something.
Don't think the clutch drags, does yours really clunk into first from neut and then up into second when moving off?
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Multi does exactly what you are describing....plus every now and again I get a groaning pulling away as well... just one of Ducatis idiosyncrasies;)
 
Gizmo said:
what bike did you have before Sean? getting used to a down change on a big twin does take a bit of getting used to, i used to flame out me RC51 on downshifts when i first got that.
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I've always had the old Honda Fours (K2's) and one of their crossers before this, that why I'm thinking it's me, so how's it done? And what should it be like?
 
seant said:
so how's it done? And what should it be like?
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carefully and usually with the back wheel stepping sideways :) you can't stomp through the box like an il4 and its rare you need to go down more than 2 gears so just drop the revs and time the shift as best you can, go down one then do same again, i tend to find i minimise shifts up as you can drive it of the torque so less cog swapping back down
 
Feathering your clutch out on downshifts is a habit I picked up a long while back,makes for much smoother riding.
Mine doesnt clunk especially when put into gear,it will be more pronounced if the fast idle is revving the engine while its cold though, nothing compared to any Honda I've ever ridden though, ...thats a clunk!:eek:
 
Sean,
Doesn't sound as if there is anything wrong with the bike especially if DG say it is ok.
As Gizmo says it is a competely different animal to an inline 4.
If you are jumping on the lever to go down the gears to "slow" you down you will easily lock up the back wheel. That is why many riders fit the slipper clutch.
Try using the torque in the motor more instead of the gears to accelerate and especially slowing down. Rolling off the throttle in a Duke can be more effective than braking and downchanging at times.
Once you learn to relax and go with the bike instead of forcing it you will find it very rewarding and a lot less work than a 4.;)
There are a few of us around you that will happily take your bike out on a road test if you are still not sure.:D
 
Sean, you NEED to get the hang of blipping the throttle on the downshift because as Mike says, the V twins are so different. You DON'T need a slipper clutch, you just need technique!

The sweet spot for revs on a V twin is somewhere around 5000-6000 revs. Change up or down about there. If the change is made too slowly the revs die hugely and the classic "dip" or "lock up" occurs. Make the gearchange movement (not rushed) but quick. The whole phase of the change should last about a second - not more.

To minimise the "lunge/lockup" you should, when changing down:

a)pull the clutch in
b)give it a big handful of gas momentarily - blip it
c)select the lower gear
d)close the gas
e)release the clutch smartly to engage lower gear while the revs are still high

all at about the "sweet spot" - 5000rpm. If done correctly you won't need to use the brakes (engine braking yo'see) or cause the rear wheel to drag/lock up. Takes practice - I'll show you if you can get out on the Masher at the weekend.

In exchange for a bottle of your finest, naturally! :D :D :D
 
interesting thread this,slightly different bike,old 900SS I've just got,but it is a whole new riding experience....unable to get neutral 90% of the time aside the downshifting is definately a whole new ball game compared to an il4.
 
CJK said:
....unable to get neutral 90% of the time aside the downshifting is definately a whole new ball game compared to an il4.
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Try knocking it into neutral before you come to a stop. It will find neutral easily whilst the wheels are still turning.
 
239desmo said:
Try knocking it into neutral before you come to a stop. It will find neutral easily whilst the wheels are still turning.
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This is what I do actually Stewart. - however, I never have a problem that Sean is describing. Sounds to me a bit like the selector fork could be very slightly out of adjustment, 1mm either way and it will give a crap gear change. Having said that, I don't know whether they've redesigned the mechanism on the DS motors. :)

Sean, come along to the Masher at the weekend and I'm sure there will be many offers of a test ride!!! :p
 
Try knocking it into neutral before you come to a stop
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aye, the Guy i bought from said that ...yet to get into the habit of doing it though ;)

Sorry seant crashing your thread here.
 
blip, blip, blip, .......keep the revs up sweet in the 5thou.
Ditto what rockjock said above.
 
Steve748 said:
If you hit the kill switch when you stop you will get neutral easily as well.
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...that reminds me of hitting the kill switch while thrashing through a tunnel on an open piped Jap 4, talk about mortar fire going off!!!! :p
 
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