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Noobie said:
From the Guardian rather suprisingly

www.theguardian.com

Plug-in hybrids pollute almost as much as petrol cars, report finds

Analysis of 800,000 European cars found real-world pollution from plug-in hybrids nearly five times greater than lab tests
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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Not really surprising. The substance of the article is that hybrids don't go far enough in the war against the combustion engine and it implies that car manufacturers have been using hybrids to dodge CO2 targets and dupe customers into buying cars that were more "planet-heating" than they thought they were - as if the customers actually cared.
It's an attack on the combustion engine and an attack on car manufacturers. Straight out of the Guardian's playbook.
 
Gimlet said:
Not really surprising. The substance of the article is that hybrids don't go far enough in the war against the combustion engine and it implies that car manufacturers have been using hybrids to dodge CO2 targets and dupe customers into buying cars that were more "planet-heating" than they thought they were - as if the customers actually cared.
It's an attack on the combustion engine and an attack on car manufacturers. Straight out of the Guardian's playbook.
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What would be really surprising would be an article from the Guardian analysing the full carbon footprint of EVs, particulary the shitty Chinese ones flooding European markets that are built with energy generated by coal-fired power stations, transported halfway round the planet on diesel ships, powered by battery packs that use rare earth minerals extracted by slave labour using the most destructive mining methods ever seen, and which will be dead in under 50,000 miles and un-recyclable. And comparing that carbon footprint with say, oh I don't know, maybe my 13 year old diesel 4x4 that was built in Halewood, Liverpool, with a low-emission Euro 4 compliant engine, has an industry estimated lifespan of a quarter of a million miles - fives times that of a Chinese EV - and which at the end of that life can be fully recycled down to the last nut and bolt.
Now that would be interesting reading. I wonder if the Grudian will publish such a thing? :unsure:
 
Gimlet said:
What would be really surprising would be an article from the Guardian analysing the full carbon footprint of EVs, particulary the shitty Chinese ones flooding European markets that are built with energy generated by coal-fired power stations, transported halfway round the planet on diesel ships, powered by battery packs that use rare earth minerals extracted by slave labour using the most destructive mining methods ever seen, and which will be dead in under 50,000 miles and un-recyclable. And comparing that carbon footprint with say, oh I don't know, maybe my 13 year old diesel 4x4 that was built in Halewood, Liverpool, with a low-emission Euro 4 compliant engine, has an industry estimated lifespan of a quarter of a million miles - fives times that of a Chinese EV - and which at the end of that life can be fully recycled down to the last nut and bolt.
Now that would be interesting reading. I wonder if the Grudian will publish such a thing? :unsure:
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It's worse than that, the ships used to transport the vehicles run on heavy fuel oil when outside harbours and coastal limits - you think diesel is dirty 🤣🤣
 
Hollow Ridge is proud to present our town’s new electric vehicle charging station.

Powered by an industrial-grade diesel generator, it’ll provide enough electricity to charge 12 vehicles at once.

We know how important it is to help preserve our climate.

We thank all those who choose to drive clean electric vehicles as opposed to gas-guzzling, over-polluting internal-combustion vehicles


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