Diet

My better half & I have been on a keto inspired diet since January. The results are great. Both feel strong, good energy & lost plenty of weight. I got a bit obsessed with the keto breath meter but thats me. I am driven or obsessed; who knows for sure. My wife has had a persistent cough since 2020; seen Drs, had cameras, taken lots of meds to no avail. Its now gone. I loved eggs but couldn’t eat them for years due to acid reflux. I can now eat them as often as I want. The best bit, we drink red wine by the gallon; its one of few drinks which doesn’t knock you out of keto; just pauses it for a while whilst the alcohol is cleared. Who’d of thunk that!!!
 
Swiss T said:
My better half & I have been on a keto inspired diet since January. The results are great. Both feel strong, good energy & lost plenty of weight. I got a bit obsessed with the keto breath meter but thats me. I am driven or obsessed; who knows for sure. My wife has had a persistent cough since 2020; seen Drs, had cameras, taken lots of meds to no avail. Its now gone. I loved eggs but couldn’t eat them for years due to acid reflux. I can now eat them as often as I want. The best bit, we drink red wine by the gallon; its one of few drinks which doesn’t knock you out of keto; just pauses it for a while whilst the alcohol is cleared. Who’d of thunk that!!!
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I am convinced that the majority of illnesses are caused by diet, and sugar (in all it's forms...all carbs convert to glucose or fructose) is the main culprit followed by seed oils.

And I don't agree with 'everything in moderation' either, because some elements build up over time in your system. We put it down to aging, but I reckon that process will be slowed down by taking the crap out.

I'm no saint, I have some carbs if I'm out...but I know about it the day after because I feel crap.
 
Swiss T said:
My better half & I have been on a keto inspired diet since January. The results are great. Both feel strong, good energy & lost plenty of weight. I got a bit obsessed with the keto breath meter but thats me. I am driven or obsessed; who knows for sure. My wife has had a persistent cough since 2020; seen Drs, had cameras, taken lots of meds to no avail. Its now gone. I loved eggs but couldn’t eat them for years due to acid reflux. I can now eat them as often as I want. The best bit, we drink red wine by the gallon; its one of few drinks which doesn’t knock you out of keto; just pauses it for a while whilst the alcohol is cleared. Who’d of thunk that!!!
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You might have told me that earlier!
 
Dox said:
I am convinced that the majority of illnesses are caused by diet, and sugar (in all it's forms...all carbs convert to glucose or fructose) is the main culprit followed by seed oils.

And I don't agree with 'everything in moderation' either, because some elements build up over time in your system. We put it down to aging, but I reckon that process will be slowed down by taking the crap out.

I'm no saint, I have some carbs if I'm out...but I know about it the day after because I feel crap.
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I treat carbs like dessert i might have one if im out for a special occasion so its a tiny proportion of my dietary intake ... nobody will convince me to change from that ..
 
Last week I had probably the best meal I've ever had in the UK (Langdale Chase Hotel) and enjoyed every mouthful, and the wine that I had too.

That was thursday night, and it took me until late saturday before I felt back to normal. I wasn't ill, just, meh...

No regrets, but I'll only have carbs now if it's going to be worth it.
 
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I disagree with his last sentence that “real food is enormously expensive” - I spend less on food now than when I was eating a standard diet.
 
Dox said:
I disagree with his last sentence that “real food is enormously expensive” - I spend less on food now than when I was eating a standard diet.
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He's talking about a 'balanced' diet of 'healthy' food and the cost of making and storing it. Getting a steak from the butcher and laying it on your exhaust for 20 seconds when you get home is much cheaper indeed 👍😁
 
Dox said:
I disagree with his last sentence that “real food is enormously expensive” - I spend less on food now than when I was eating a standard diet.
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Depends what you’re prepared to eat surely, see things like chuck in the oven pizzas, ready meals etc for £1-£2.

I’m convinced supermarkets were behind ‘five a day’ fruit and veg (I know they’re not your thing) used to be cheap, once they’d come up with that shit they put a big green tick with ‘one of your five a day’ label on and went X10 on the price.
Wankers.
 
Alan Williams said:
Depends what you’re prepared to eat surely, see things like chuck in the oven pizzas, ready meals etc for £1-£2.

I’m convinced supermarkets were behind ‘five a day’ fruit and veg (I know they’re not your thing) used to be cheap, once they’d come up with that shit they put a big green tick with ‘one of your five a day’ label on and went X10 on the price.
Wankers.
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Do you have a farm shop near you?

You can then cut out one of the middle men.
 
Hugo Magnus said:
Do you have a farm shop near you?

You can then cut out one of the middle men.
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We have a local butchers and green grocers that are better value (and cheaper) than the farm shop. Unfortunately their opening times aren’t great when I’m in the office.

Farm shop was good, until it built up a good reputation- then it ‘refurbished’ the barn they were selling from and prices soared.dont use it anymore.

Off topic - there were some small shops that offered good prices for other stuff (not food) where you took your own container and they filled it. Very good value.
Covid (or was it the supermarkets 🤔😬 ) ended them.
 
Dox said:
I disagree with his last sentence that “real food is enormously expensive” - I spend less on food now than when I was eating a standard diet.
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I'm not a carnivore but I still eat plenty of meat. When I visit my local butcher (Castlebank in Stanhope - quick plug there) I typically spend about £15. That is enough meat to last me a week. A similar sum will fill a carrier bag to bursting point with fruit and veg from the greengrocer next door.
Meat from supermarkets is more expensive and of far poorer quality. I bought a large joint of belly pork form the butcher last week for a fiver and got five meals out of it. Admittedly it was on offer and needed freezing or cooking immediately but even so the quality was night and day better than a supermarket joint. I often buy liver from them (ox if they've got it). It's about 30% cheaper than supermarkets, and it's a deep red, not grey or pink and swimming in pink juice, and expertly butchered into clean slices without a tube or piece of membrane in sight.

Food, whether you only eat meat or a combination of meat and veg, isn't expensive when you eat real food cooked from scratch. In fact it's arguably too cheap given how many farmers are going out of business.
My supermarket grocery bills are padded by non food items where they claw back the money they lose on loss-leader food items. Toiletries, cleaning products and household stuff is an absolute rip-off in supermarkets. I tend to buy those from independent bargain-buy type shops where you get the same products for far less. You just have to make the effort to got to them. Supermarkets cash in on consumer laziness.
 
NoGutsNoGlory said:
I live about 500 mts from the farm shop and use it quite regularly now. Great food but they charge like angry Rhinos.
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I would love to get hold of some inside info. on the actual profits made by the manufacturers and thus the supermarkets.
I know the wholesale price of the milk we produce and I know the retail price of the cheese it used for. I don't know how much the cheese factory charge the supermarket for the cheese.


I suspect that your farm shop is having to pay a lot more for the outsourced products than the supermarkets.
 
Hugo Magnus said:
I would love to get hold of some inside info. on the actual profits made by the manufacturers and thus the supermarkets.
I know the wholesale price of the milk we produce and I know the retail price of the cheese it used for. I don't know how much the cheese factory charge the supermarket for the cheese.


I suspect that your farm shop is having to pay a lot more for the outsourced products than the supermarkets.
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Here in Ireland their is a constant moan how much the supermarkets actually dictate to the producer the price .. if you don't like it the producer is basically locked out of the market .. im neighbours with a couple of farmers and I know how tight they live day to day .. personally I don't know why the do it so asked ... its in their blood .. 2 years ago my direct neighbour lost his whole herd to TB and could have walked away after loosing 70 years of blood line and breeding... the nut jobs choose to start all over again in his late 40's his dad is 87 but its all they have ever done 🤔 the big players are horrible fuckers in my opinion
 
The skitz said:
Here in Ireland their is a constant moan how much the supermarkets actually dictate to the producer the price .. if you don't like it the producer is basically locked out of the market .. im neighbours with a couple of farmers and I know how tight they live day to day .. personally I don't know why the do it so asked ... its in their blood .. 2 years ago my direct neighbour lost his whole herd to TB and could have walked away after loosing 70 years of blood line and breeding... the nut jobs choose to start all over again in his late 40's his dad is 87 but its all they have ever done 🤔 the big players are horrible fuckers in my opinion
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@Hugo Magnus will know better than me the situation today as he's in the business, but ten years ago I remember speaking to a tenant farmer on the estate where I lived, and he said that at that time the only supermarket contract worth having for milk producers was with Waitrose. Other supermarkets operated an all-or-nothing deal where they dictated the price and the producer had to agree to sell all their milk to that supermarket or they would buy none of it. When we still had a Monopolies and Mergers Commission I'm sure that kind of racketeering would have been illegal. But the Blair government abolished it.
 
Gimlet said:
I'm not a carnivore but I still eat plenty of meat. When I visit my local butcher (Castlebank in Stanhope - quick plug there) I typically spend about £15. That is enough meat to last me a week. A similar sum will fill a carrier bag to bursting point with fruit and veg from the greengrocer next door.
Meat from supermarkets is more expensive and of far poorer quality. I bought a large joint of belly pork form the butcher last week for a fiver and got five meals out of it. Admittedly it was on offer and needed freezing or cooking immediately but even so the quality was night and day better than a supermarket joint. I often buy liver from them (ox if they've got it). It's about 30% cheaper than supermarkets, and it's a deep red, not grey or pink and swimming in pink juice, and expertly butchered into clean slices without a tube or piece of membrane in sight.

Food, whether you only eat meat or a combination of meat and veg, isn't expensive when you eat real food cooked from scratch. In fact it's arguably too cheap given how many farmers are going out of business.
My supermarket grocery bills are padded by non food items where they claw back the money they lose on loss-leader food items. Toiletries, cleaning products and household stuff is an absolute rip-off in supermarkets. I tend to buy those from independent bargain-buy type shops where you get the same products for far less. You just have to make the effort to got to them. Supermarkets cash in on consumer laziness.
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£15 ??

That's a couple days worth for me. Am I doing it all wrong? :unsure:
 
Hugo Magnus said:
I would love to get hold of some inside info. on the actual profits made by the manufacturers and thus the supermarkets.
I know the wholesale price of the milk we produce and I know the retail price of the cheese it used for. I don't know how much the cheese factory charge the supermarket for the cheese.


I suspect that your farm shop is having to pay a lot more for the outsourced products than the supermarkets.
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It’s all quality stuff so I’m happy paying the premium.
It’s always busy so a lot of other people are as well.
It has a small cafe on site and it is that popular you have to book to get a table inside.
The farmer is not that popular atm as he has sold one of his adjacent fields for proposed housing. 750 houses in a smallish village is not being received well but as a property developer I can’t blame him.
 
NoGutsNoGlory said:
It’s all quality stuff so I’m happy paying the premium.
It’s always busy so a lot of other people are as well.
It has a small cafe on site and it is that popular you have to book to get a table inside.
The farmer is not that popular atm as he has sold one of his adjacent fields for proposed housing. 750 houses in a smallish village is not being received well but as a property developer I can’t blame him.
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For my neighbour its how her survives .when the shit is about to hit the fan he will sell of another half acre site for around 500k land is very expensive where we are and this keeps him going for another few years .. I can't blame him either 👌
 
The skitz said:
For my neighbour its how her survives .when the shit is about to hit the fan he will sell of another half acre site for around 500k land is very expensive where we are and this keeps him going for another few years .. I can't blame him either 👌
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That ís pitiful!
I'm being very hypocritical when I say that I hate seeing agricultural land being built on, that is exactly what I have done. I couldn't afford a ready made farm so bought some land from a disused farm and built 2 houses and farm buildings on that. Unfortunately the small holdings and small farms are being either absorbed into bigger farms or bought up by city folk as rural retreats. It is nigh on impossible to start farming from scratch unless you have Clarkson type income behind you, I'm the exception.

I don't deal directly with supermarkets. I sell to a cheese maker, They blame the supermarket for their not being able to pay more for our milk (I don't believe them but cannot prove them wrong without seeing what price they sell their cheese for. Anyone know any hackers?
 
Gimlet said:
Shredded wheat isn't a meal. It's a cereal-based pan scourer. Probably more nutrition in a Brillo pad.
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I tried Brillo Pads but they set my teeth on edge and besides, rust is not a a safe substance to consume in any quantity.

Bunch o' slack-jawed faggots on the forum this afternoon. They need to get some Shredded Wheat down 'em, make 'em into real men.
 
Gimlet said:
food cooked from scratch. I
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This ^^^

We batch cook from scratch, chillies, curry, stews cottage/shepherds pies etc. and then freeze it, best ready meals you can have.
Oh and there’s shit loads of free fruit if you know where to look for it, apples, pairs damsons and blackberries, again all frozen ready for use.

Out picking blackberries last year two kids late teens/early twenties (lad and his girl), didn't know what blackberries are.
 
Unhinged said:
This ^^^

We batch cook from scratch, chillies, curry, stews cottage/shepherds pies etc. and then freeze it, best ready meals you can have.
Oh and there’s shit loads of free fruit if you know where to look for it, apples, pairs damsons and blackberries, again all frozen ready for use.

Out picking blackberries last year two kids late teens/early twenties (lad and his girl), didn't know what blackberries are.
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I try make use of as much wild food as possible, especially in the spring. I pick loads of wild garlic. The manager of our pub has multiple food allergies caused by medication for an illness she had. She loves garlic but can't eat cultivated varieties. But for some reason wild garlic is fine. I pick two stuffed carrier bags every spring for her and one for me. Some gets eaten straight away but most goes into making garlic butter and pesto. Keeps in the freezer till next year.

It surprises me how many people don't know about common wild plants you can eat, like dandelions, plantain, nettles, hawthorn leaves and flowers, chickweed, ground elder, meadowsweet, yarrow etc.
I was speaking to the barmaid in the pub a while back. She's in her late 60's and didn't know that dandelion leaves were edible.
In Mediterranean and eastern European countries they forage for wild greens all the time. We used to here. It's sad we're losing that knowledge.
 
Gimlet said:
I try make use of as much wild food as possible, especially in the spring. I pick loads of wild garlic. The manager of our pub has multiple food allergies caused by medication for an illness she had. She loves garlic but can't eat cultivated varieties. But for some reason wild garlic is fine. I pick two stuffed carrier bags every spring for her and one for me. Some gets eaten straight away but most goes into making garlic butter and pesto. Keeps in the freezer till next year.

It surprises me how many people don't know about common wild plants you can eat, like dandelions, plantain, nettles, hawthorn leaves and flowers, chickweed, ground elder, meadowsweet, yarrow etc.
I was speaking to the barmaid in the pub a while back. She's in her late 60's and didn't know that dandelion leaves were edible.
In Mediterranean and eastern European countries they forage for wild greens all the time. We used to here. It's sad we're losing that knowledge.
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I forgot, the wild garlic, place(woodland) not to far away has masses of it.


"Nasturtiums not only look spectacular but the flowers, leaves and seeds are edible, too"
When they go to seed, I pick them and put them in the pickle jar.

How to grow and care for nasturtiums


Sea radish is good to, I've only found it up in Scotland.

"Common by the coast in the South and West and in the South West of Scotland"
Sea Radish
 
Unhinged said:
I forgot, the wild garlic, place(woodland) not to far away has masses of it.


"Nasturtiums not only look spectacular but the flowers, leaves and seeds are edible, too"
When they go to seed, I pick them and put them in the pickle jar.

How to grow and care for nasturtiums


Sea radish is good to, I've only found it up in Scotland.

"Common by the coast in the South and West and in the South West of Scotland"
Sea Radish
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I used to grow nasturtiums down south and used the seeds as a substitute for pickled capers. Leaves are great as a bitter salad ingredient as well.
For some reason they don't grow so well where I am now. I guess it's because my garden is surrounded by trees and doesn't get enough sunlight. I tried to grow some a couple of years ago but they got destroyed by caterpillars. Might try some in a hanging basket next year.
 
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