Conspiracy theories, who starts them and why?

you may recall I challenged this claim recently and asked for some evidence from whoever had posted it. I was told to search myself, which I had, and reiterated that some proof should be posted…of course it never was…
 
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Nothing would be more fatal than for the Government of States to get into the hands of experts. Expert knowledge is limited knowledge and the unlimited ignorance of the plain man, who knows where it hurts, is a safer guide than any rigorous direction of a specialist.

Sir Winston Churchill
 
Laava said:
you may recall I challenged this claim recently and asked for some evidence from whoever had posted it. I was told to search myself, which I had, and reiterated that some proof should be posted…of course it never was…
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Yep, it's all bollocks: or in this case 'no bollocks' :ROFLMAO:
 
Dox said:
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Nothing would be more fatal than for the Government of States to get into the hands of experts. Expert knowledge is limited knowledge and the unlimited ignorance of the plain man, who knows where it hurts, is a safer guide than any rigorous direction of a specialist.

Sir Winston Churchill
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Those are wise words , as are these -

“The perfect dictatorship would have the appearance of a democracy, but would basically be
a prison without walls in which the prisoners would not even dream of escaping.
It would essentially be a system of slavery where through consumption and entertainment,
the slaves would love their servitude.”

- Aldous Huxley 1931
 
Duke of Prunes said:
Those are wise words , as are these -

“The perfect dictatorship would have the appearance of a democracy, but would basically be
a prison without walls in which the prisoners would not even dream of escaping.
It would essentially be a system of slavery where through consumption and entertainment,
the slaves would love their servitude.”

- Aldous Huxley 1931
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Brave new World, reads like, if the neo-liberals ever dared release, thier manifesto to the sheeple! :(
 
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My default position is that conspiracy theories are a pile of shit.

That is, until one is developed in a cogent way and supported by rigorous analysis and established evidence then I will reconsider on the merits.
 
That is fascinating and proves just how easily you can be manipulated by whomsoever owns the main stream media.
 
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Everclear said:
My default position is that conspiracy theories are a pile of shit.

That is, until one is developed in a cogent way and supported by rigorous analysis and established evidence then I will reconsider on the merits.
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That's akin to saying libraries are full of shit because of the fiction section.

Learn to discern.

The term 'conspiracy theory' (although first used well before then) was weaponised by the CIA along with a set of guidelines to counter people who question the official Warren Report.

Edit: And who gets the right to call something a conspiracy theory? Officialdom...the ones who's information is being challenged...and their propaganda arm the MSM.

If you believe those are the only credible sources (despite mountains of evidence they're not) you have a closed mind, and will never be able to discern when they're right, or when they're lying. You've already given them the label of source of truth before you look at any evidence; you will never see the evidence objectively.
 
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Exige said:
Sometimes you just have to let some things go :)


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I don't know man. I think most people reach a certain level of mental acuity then level off and the ability to discern or apply logic when contemplating ideas outside of one's day to day sphere of reality and are limited to that level of understanding.

Then you have peer, family & social influence, media influence and herd influence (that which comes from institutional affiliation) which further support their thinking.

We tend to group and label everything. This aspect of humanity I find fascinating. We participate in this regularly, we need to identify, separate and categorize just about everything in our lives including people and ideas. We affiliate ourselves with people and things that are, for lack of a better word, "comfortable" to our reality.

Is the earth flat? Of course it is, we've known it to be so for thousands of years.

I for one do not believe the statement above, the point is not whether it is or not, it's that it is ok to believe it is if it suits you. It is ok, actually it is expected to question, re-examine and prove otherwise scientific theories, this is at the core of the scientific principle.

A flat earth was the accepted empirical truth for thousands of years this go around until it was proven otherwise by the then conspiracy theorist of the time who often paid for their beliefs through torture and death.

Remain open minded and try to avoid clique-ism/tribalism and embrace globalism, we are one race, human. This will be important later.

The gods know I try and fail regularly, for example I know HD owners aren't true moto enthusiasts, it's all show and lifestyle.
 
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Any normal mass is mostly empty space. I'm not sure about degenerate matter though ... Stu, can you help? You know a lot about degenerate matter.
 
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Remain open minded and try to avoid clique-ism/tribalism and embrace globalism, we are one race, human. This will be important later.
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Most conspiract theorists are bored westerner's with too much time on their hands.
 
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RA5 said:
we need to identify, separate and categorize just about everything in our lives including people and ideas. We affiliate ourselves with people and things that are, for lack of a better word, "comfortable" to our reality.
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It’s an innate tribal thing, we want to associate with people from the same tribe which includes the same belief systems. We are hardwired to be anti anything that doesn’t fit our ‘tribe’ be that appearance or beliefs.
 
Certianly when things in life get a bit harder, some seek to find a person or organisation to blame. It varies from pointing out the obvious to the down right just plain silly
 
West Cork Paul said:
It’s an innate tribal thing, we want to associate with people from the same tribe which includes the same belief systems. We are hardwired to be anti anything that doesn’t fit our ‘tribe’ be that appearance or beliefs.
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Don't listen to this guy, he's from the wrong side of the Irish Sea.
 
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West Cork Paul said:
It’s an innate tribal thing, we want to associate with people from the same tribe which includes the same belief systems. We are hardwired to be anti anything that doesn’t fit our ‘tribe’ be that appearance or beliefs.
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Therefore, subjective.
 
Noobie said:
Most conspiract theorists are bored westerner's with too much time on their hands.
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The ancients with too much time on their hands eventually became shamans. Don't see that happening with the current lot. Good point on it being primarily a western trend.
 
You don't see an african starving kid asking what is the meal offered to him because he's lactose intolerant with a nut allergy and a vegan
 
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