Conspiracy theories, who starts them and why?

Noobie said:
What has become quite obvious during the tooing and throwing is that the conspiracy side if you will, call others sheeple if you do not agree with the conspiracist and it doesn't seem to register to those, that they are in fact sheeple themselves just on the other side



In the thinking for yourself category, conspiracists will push as I mentioned above, as that they are the free thinkers but as we've seen in multiple threads, often what is pushed as free thinking, has been little more than lies, half truths and pure sillyness with other motives driving the claim.

How often have we seen information put forward that if they were truly free thinkers, would think, what exactly am I pushing forward and I have I checked it? Not often as we have seen too many times certianly in here. far too many examples
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Not sure about that, I was referring mainly to MSM etc, where I've seen articles (BBC I think) about 'how to talk to conspiracy theorists'. I don't disagree on the calling people sheep thing just not sure it's as commonly used to shut down a disagreement.
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Would you say I was a conspiracy theorist then, and if so, why ?
 
Alan Williams said:
Not sure about that, I was referring mainly to MSM etc, where I've seen articles (BBC I think) about 'how to talk to conspiracy theorists'. I don't disagree on the calling people sheep thing just not sure it's as commonly used to shut down a disagreement.
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Would you say I was a conspiracy theorist then, and if so, why ?
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Postmen :unsure:
 
Exige said:
Postmen :unsure:
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Noobie said:
A feeling more than a theory Al. In the western/first world, we have too much time on our hands in a way say the Bangladeshies haven't at the moment.
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Over most of the past millennium the working class were illiterate peasants who had to work every hour of sunlight and some to enable them to feed themselves and their families.
During this time the church conspired to fill their heads with bullshit about the riches of heaven if they behaved themselves in this life.
They didn't have the luxury of being able to explore alternative ideas (as we (in the west) do now). I propose that this could be why the wealthy nations have more free thinkers (those not brainwashed by the state for various nefarious reasons).

 
Hugo Magnus said:
Over most of the past millennium the working class were illiterate peasants who had to work every hour of sunlight and some to enable them to feed themselves and their families.
During this time the church conspired to fill their heads with bullshit about the riches of heaven if they behaved themselves in this life.
They didn't have the luxury of being able to explore alternative ideas (as we (in the west) do now). I propose that this could be why the wealthy nations have more free thinkers (those not brainwashed by the state for various nefarious reasons).
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Does that mean things are getting better then - even Doel Wallers have sky TV and cars :unsure:
 
So, it is no wonder that those of us who don't watch the telly or listen to the radio have a different perspective on life to those who do.
...and it's no good saying "it won't affect me" you don't know as you're not an expert!
 
I read a lot from many different sources. I listen to the points of view of people I respect and of those I don't. and as Barry (what the) Hell says Observation is enlightening. I notice that many will ape what they have been told in preference to formulating their own opinion.
 
Hugo Magnus said:
I read a lot from many different sources. I listen to the points of view of people I respect and of those I don't. and as Barry (what the) Hell says Observation is enlightening. I notice that many will ape what they have been told in preference to formulating their own opinion.
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I try to do similar, I find it's no fun discussing a subject with someone that has the same views.

All the 'woke' stuff in the media seems bizarre to me, as that's the only place it exists.
 
Alan Williams said:
A one sided view though ?
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Hugo Magnus said:
What do you mean Al?
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I wonder ? If Als question was more along the lines of, if the conspiracists believe everyone who see's the msm are blindindly following the msm, then why do the conspiracists believe their sources are 100% the truth and that they themselves are NOT being brainwashed and by a different group of sources?
 
Noobie said:
I wonder ? If Als question was more along the lines of, if the conspiracists believe everyone who see's the msm are blindindly following the msm, then why do the conspiracists believe their sources are 100% the truth and that they themselves are NOT being brainwashed and by a different group of sources?
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Putin's good at that with some of his sheep 🐑 luckily there's not many outside of Russia :)
 
Noobie said:
I wonder ? If Als question was more along the lines of, if the conspiracists believe everyone who see's the msm are blindindly following the msm, then why do the conspiracists believe their sources are 100% the truth and that they themselves are NOT being brainwashed and by a different group of sources?
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Something like that, I'd replace 'conspiracists' with 'some people' though. I think covid has changed it so that anyone that doesn't follow the 'main message' on a subject must be a conspiracy theorist. I don't believe that's the case, otherwise we'd all be conspiracy theorists.
 
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