Climate Change (Global Warming) 🥶🌍🌞

[Loz]

The steps taken to attempt to feed the Earth's human population are destructive to the environment and to other species. Add to that the harms caused to human beings themselves in an effort produce substandard "nutrition" in sufficient quantities.

Now please - do explain to me the over-population is not a problem.

The one area of discussion that I see eye-to-eye with murderous oligarchs and elites.

It's not just the space we need - it's the methods used to feed that many mouths.

 

[Unhinged]

So it wasn't climate change then.

Foil helium party balloon sparked field fire that destroyed two homes

 

[Dox]

The steps taken to attempt to feed the Earth's human population are destructive to the environment and to other species. Add to that the harms caused to human beings themselves in an effort produce substandard "nutrition" in sufficient quantities.

Now please - do explain to me the over-population is not a problem.

The one area of discussion that I see eye-to-eye with murderous oligarchs and elites.

It's not just the space we need - it's the methods used to feed that many mouths.

Go back to our ancestoral diet (totally, or mostly just meat).

One head of cattle feeds a man, with optimum nutrition, for a year, and no need for anything else. Grass fed beef and sheep return perfect nutrients to the land whereas crops deplete it.

There are enormous swathes of land which currently aren't used for raising animals. Sheep especially can be raised on land that could never be used for anything else.

Overpopulation is easy to believe if you live near a big city. There are places where you can fly in a jet for 5 hours and barely see any proof of humanity at all.

Edit:
"The steps taken to attempt to feed the Earth's human population are destructive to the environment and to other species"

That's because they're producing low nutrient crap and calling it food.

 

[Loz]

Overpopulation is easy to believe when you see the efforts made in order to feed the masses. Living near a city and driving around on roads that were empty in the 1980s and crammed to the gills today... these are just local signs of the problems and they aren't even close to the worst of them.

For a start, a culling of vegans & vegetarians who refuse to go to a meat-based diet would be the obvious first tranche of reductions. I think I'm kidding about that but maybe I'm not? Depends on what sort of day it's been.

 

[Gimlet]

Overpopulation is easy to believe when you see the efforts made in order to feed the masses. Living near a city and driving around on roads that were empty in the 1980s and crammed to the gills today... these are just local signs of the problems and they aren't even close to the worst of them.

Exactly. The consequences of overpopulation are so obvious and so impactful that you have to be pathologically deluded not to see them. Which of course many people are as they've been brainwashed into believing that living in a human termite colony is both natural and desirable. "Vibrant" even.
Socialist Big Government herds the populace like livestock into intensive city-farms where they can be more efficiently monitored and their expectations controlled, and where they can be more easily milked of their money. It tells them that the squalor, violence, crime and pollution that comes when you cram ten million people into an area of land smaller than the average Nebraskan cereal farm is down to "14 years of Tory cuts". They invent and promulgate myths that shift the blame onto confected enemies for the vile living conditions which they have created themselves. "Climate change" is a good example: frighten a helpless and suggestible population into believing that the planet is boiling up because of the internal combustion engine and they become conditioned into abandoning car ownership and driving so that the congestion they live with will be less noticeable to them.
Big government creates the human battery farm, hand in hand with big business which sells the inmates the toys and medicated food treats to keep them amused, pacified and alive just long enough to keep the revenue stream going. That's how globalism works and that metaphorically is what globalism is: it's the intensive factory-farming of human beings for the benefit of a ruling political and corporate elite.

Of course, if you've seen through this charade you are condemned as "far-right". If you reject the orchestrated programme of overpopulation you are pilloried as a Malthusian, a misanthropic miserabilist who hates his own kind.
The stupid people believe this. Infected with collective Stockholm Syndrome they glue themselves to motorways, wave the rainbow flag in support of Islamic terrorism and issue death threats against any public figure who questions the false narrative that has captured them. So you weren't far out when it comes to vegans...

 

[Loz]

Exactly. The consequences of overpopulation are so obvious and so impactful that you have to be pathologically deluded not to see them. Which of course many people are as they've been brainwashed into believing that living in a human termite colony is both natural and desirable. "Vibrant" even.
Socialist Big Government herds the populace like livestock into intensive city-farms where they can be more efficiently monitored and their expectations controlled, and where they can be more easily milked of their money. It tells them that the squalor, violence, crime and pollution that comes when you cram ten million people into an area of land smaller than the average Nebraskan cereal farm is down to "14 years of Tory cuts". They invent and promulgate myths that shift the blame onto confected enemies for the vile living conditions which they have created themselves. "Climate change" is a good example: frighten a helpless and suggestible population into believing that the planet is boiling up because of the internal combustion engine and they become conditioned into abandoning car ownership and driving so that the congestion they live with will be less noticeable to them.
Big government creates the human battery farm, hand in hand with big business which sells the inmates the toys and medicated food treats to keep them amused, pacified and alive just long enough to keep the revenue stream going. That's how globalism works and that metaphorically is what globalism is: it's the intensive factory-farming of human beings for the benefit of a ruling political and corporate elite.

Of course, if you've seen through this charade you are condemned as "far-right". If you reject the orchestrated programme of overpopulation you are pilloried as a Malthusian, a misanthropic miserabilist who hates his own kind.
The stupid people believe this. Infected with collective Stockholm Syndrome they glue themselves to motorways, wave the rainbow flag in support of Islamic terrorism and issue death threats against any public figure who questions the false narrative that has captured them. So you weren't far out when it comes to vegans...

Bravo, dude. As good a summary as I have seen or could hope to see.

 

[Hugo Magnus]

Exactly. The consequences of overpopulation are so obvious and so impactful that you have to be pathologically deluded not to see them. Which of course many people are as they've been brainwashed into believing that living in a human termite colony is both natural and desirable. "Vibrant" even.
Socialist Big Government herds the populace like livestock into intensive city-farms where they can be more efficiently monitored and their expectations controlled, and where they can be more easily milked of their money. It tells them that the squalor, violence, crime and pollution that comes when you cram ten million people into an area of land smaller than the average Nebraskan cereal farm is down to "14 years of Tory cuts". They invent and promulgate myths that shift the blame onto confected enemies for the vile living conditions which they have created themselves. "Climate change" is a good example: frighten a helpless and suggestible population into believing that the planet is boiling up because of the internal combustion engine and they become conditioned into abandoning car ownership and driving so that the congestion they live with will be less noticeable to them.
Big government creates the human battery farm, hand in hand with big business which sells the inmates the toys and medicated food treats to keep them amused, pacified and alive just long enough to keep the revenue stream going. That's how globalism works and that metaphorically is what globalism is: it's the intensive factory-farming of human beings for the benefit of a ruling political and corporate elite.

Of course, if you've seen through this charade you are condemned as "far-right". If you reject the orchestrated programme of overpopulation you are pilloried as a Malthusian, a misanthropic miserabilist who hates his own kind.
The stupid people believe this. Infected with collective Stockholm Syndrome they glue themselves to motorways, wave the rainbow flag in support of Islamic terrorism and issue death threats against any public figure who questions the false narrative that has captured them. So you weren't far out when it comes to vegans...

The sheep like to be led.

 

[Carr01]

Non so blind as those that will not see.

 

[Loz]

Non so blind as those that will not see.

OK, I'm gonna allow it.

 

[Gimlet]

Bravo, dude. As good a summary as I have seen or could hope to see.

There's a whole library of books that could be written on this. The blame for the great post-industrial globalist delusion could reasonably by laid at our door in Britain. We invented the modern world - though in our defence, if we hadn't, someone else would have done so. It might have taken a slightly different shape or flavour and the global language might have been Dutch or French or Mandarin instead of English, but the impact on the planet and the human condition would have been much the same. After all, we simply did it first and most efficiently. Other nations were trying to do it at the same time, we just got there ahead of them. If we hadn't others would have managed it and it would have happened anyway.

In 1750 at the dawn of the industrial revolution the population of the UK was 7.5 million - roughly half as much again as the population density of modern day New Zealand. A reasonably healthy level that could be fed, housed and clothed sustainably from natural resources and where our population should be today. But for the industrial revolution and the British empire that supplied it, staffed it and created a captive market for the goods and technologies it churned out, the UK today might be a rather nice place to live. We might have become a self-sufficient agrarian economy not unlike New Zealand or Iceland that went largely unnoticed by the rest of the world. If only it had been so...
Instead our "workshop of the world" (more accurately the sweatshop) demanded a conveyor belt of expendable worker ants to keep it going. Our social history of feudalism made the transition to big government authoritarianism and corporate tyranny relatively easy since the cultural acceptance of such a settlement was already imbued in our national psyche. All that was needed was to change the ruling personnel and call it something else and no one would notice. Many still haven't.

Anti-imperialists like to concentrate on the ills and injustices that imperial Britain supposedly inflicted on the other nations and peoples it ruled over. They never consider the price paid by the British people themselves. The legacy of empire and industrialism is all around us, defended, oddly, most vociferously by the left.
The divisions of social class under the old feudal system became institutionalised and woven into our constitution. It gave us class warfare, adversarial politics and back to back slum housing; and it elevated social division into a cause celebre to be perpetuated for partisan advantage rather than an anachronism that we should have left behind in the middle ages.

 

[Loz]

There's a whole library of books that could be written on this. The blame for the great post-industrial globalist delusion could reasonably by laid at our door in Britain. We invented the modern world - though in our defence, if we hadn't, someone else would have done so. It might have taken a slightly different shape or flavour and the global language might have been Dutch or French or Mandarin instead of English, but the impact on the planet and the human condition would have been much the same. After all, we simply did it first and most efficiently. Other nations were trying to do it at the same time, we just got there ahead of them. If we hadn't others would have managed it and it would have happened anyway.

In 1750 at the dawn of the industrial revolution the population of the UK was 7.5 million - roughly half as much again as the population density of modern day New Zealand. A reasonably healthy level that could be fed, housed and clothed sustainably from natural resources and where our population should be today. But for the industrial revolution and the British empire that supplied it, staffed it and created a captive market for the goods and technologies it churned out, the UK today might be a rather nice place to live. We might have become a self-sufficient agrarian economy not unlike New Zealand or Iceland that went largely unnoticed by the rest of the world. If only it had been so...
Instead our "workshop of the world" (more accurately the sweatshop) demanded a conveyor belt of expendable worker ants to keep it going. Our social history of feudalism made the transition to big government authoritarianism and corporate tyranny relatively easy since the cultural acceptance of such a settlement was already imbued in our national psyche. All that was needed was to change the ruling personnel and call it something else and no one would notice. Many still haven't.

Anti-imperialists like to concentrate on the ills and injustices that imperial Britain supposedly inflicted on the other nations and peoples it ruled over. They never consider the price paid by the British people themselves. The legacy of empire and industrialism is all around us, defended, oddly, most vociferously by the left.
The divisions of social class under the old feudal system became institutionalised and woven into our constitution. It gave us class warfare, adversarial politics and back to back slum housing; and it elevated social division into a cause celebre to be perpetuated for partisan advantage rather than an anachronism that we should have left behind in the middle ages.

Again - nailed it.