AI & the Future ............. What on Earth does it Hold for us All ?!!

Gimlet said:
I did cut out potatoes as well but slowly started eating them again, though really only as roasties with my Sunday lunch. At first I roasted pumkin instead. Might go back to trying that. The trick is finding the right varieties that will crisp up in the skin instead of collapsing to mush. And they're seasonal of course.

I was thinking I've derailed the thread somewhat with my ailments, but then again given that all GP appointments will soon be AI and we'll be largely left to diagnose ourselves perhaps it is relevent.
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I`m sure you are well aware that going off topic on this forum is frowned on, prepare to be excommunicated.
Have you tried filling yourself up with soup while you`ve been ill ? It`s an easy way of getting plenty of goodness in alongside keeping your fluids topped up.
Meat soup for @Dox obvs, the rest of us can have vegetables in soup too.
 
Dukesox said:
I`m sure you are well aware that going off topic on this forum is frowned on, prepare to be excommunicated.
Have you tried filling yourself up with soup while you`ve been ill ? It`s an easy way of getting plenty of goodness in alongside keeping your fluids topped up.
Meat soup for @Dox obvs, the rest of us can have vegetables in soup too.
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That's not a bad idea. I must admit when I'm feverish it's a real struggle to force myself to eat anything. Mostly just lived on tea. Soup would be much better.
 
Gimlet said:
I've been eating fruit and veg since I wad weaned and had no problems up until week ago.
I stopped eating bread, along with all refined carbs about three years ago. I do very occaisionally make my own soda bread from spelt flower but not very often.
I've been told to have blood tests to see if I've got a mineral or vitamin deficiency which is possible since furing the hot spell I haven't been eating very much at all.

I'd be surprised if I don't develop arthritis at some point as I'm nearly 60 and my mother's side of the family were riddled with it.
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Because you've eaten them all your life doesn't mean that they couldn't be the cause.

Joint pain and arthritis usually start as we age.

All plants are toxic to some degree; some will kill you in minutes, some may take decades to build up and cause ailments. Just about all plants also contain anti-nutrients stopping you getting the benefit from everything you're eating.

Thinking because you've eaten something for 50 years it won't do you any harm, is akin to thinking that it was that 12th pint that gave you the hangover.

Worth trying if nothing else - what's 6 weeks if it gives years of pain relief without taking any pills? Has to be done strictly mind you.
 
Gimlet said:
That's not a bad idea. I must admit when I'm feverish it's a real struggle to force myself to eat anything. Mostly just lived on tea. Soup would be much better.
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My 92 year old father is currently quite ill, he is existing on this :-

Chunky Chicken and Root Vegetable Soup | M&S

Our hearty Chicken and Vegetable Soup amps up the comfort with generous chunks of nourishing root vegetables. This warming wonder has been made in the UK with tender British chicken and a wholesome mix of potatoes, swedes, parsnips and leeks, all simmered in a silky roast chicken stock.
www.marksandspencer.com www.marksandspencer.com

I like a nice gazpacho when it`s hot and I don`t even have a GS.
 
Dukesox said:
My 92 year old father is currently quite ill, he is existing on this :-

Chunky Chicken and Root Vegetable Soup | M&S

Our hearty Chicken and Vegetable Soup amps up the comfort with generous chunks of nourishing root vegetables. This warming wonder has been made in the UK with tender British chicken and a wholesome mix of potatoes, swedes, parsnips and leeks, all simmered in a silky roast chicken stock.
www.marksandspencer.com www.marksandspencer.com

I like a nice gazpacho when it`s hot and I don`t even have a GS.
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Best wishes for your dad Duke (y)
 
Dukesox said:
My 92 year old father is currently quite ill, he is existing on this :-

Chunky Chicken and Root Vegetable Soup | M&S

Our hearty Chicken and Vegetable Soup amps up the comfort with generous chunks of nourishing root vegetables. This warming wonder has been made in the UK with tender British chicken and a wholesome mix of potatoes, swedes, parsnips and leeks, all simmered in a silky roast chicken stock.
www.marksandspencer.com www.marksandspencer.com

I like a nice gazpacho when it`s hot and I don`t even have a GS.
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The vomit emoji is for the cold soup 👀 best of luck to your old man pal 👍
 
Still haven't got to this standard yet.

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West Cork Paul said:
AI can’t take all jobs. Anything that requires manual interaction eg Trades people will be safe. It’s those that are almost 100% brainpower in their jobs will be hit the most.
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Unfortunately though, when AI takes thousands of IT jobs those people will be forced to look for other sources of income and that most likely will be turning their hand to manual labor.
I dont believe trades people will be safe at all. More people competing for contracts ( even if they dont have a clue) ultimately lowers wages. When the eastern Europeans started flooding into the uk it dropped wages in the trades drastically. Even though they might have been shit, people would rather pay 50 a day than 150.
Also with so many IT workers etc out of work, who are the trades going to work for? It will be cut throat to fuck!!!!
I dont think im exaggerating here, job losses due to AI have started and they will snowball rapidly.
 
Chizel - Founding Father said:
Unfortunately though, when AI takes thousands of IT jobs those people will be forced to look for other sources of income and that most likely will be turning their hand to manual labor.
I dont believe trades people will be safe at all. More people competing for contracts ( even if they dont have a clue) ultimately lowers wages. When the eastern Europeans started flooding into the uk it dropped wages in the trades drastically. Even though they might have been shit, people would rather pay 50 a day than 150.
Also with so many IT workers etc out of work, who are the trades going to work for? It will be cut throat to fuck!!!!
I dont think im exaggerating here, job losses due to AI have started and they will snowball rapidly.
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Not AI but automation; Fully fitted houses are being made in factories and delivered by lorries in modular form.
 
Hugo Magnus said:
Not AI but automation; Fully fitted houses are being made in factories and delivered by lorries in modular form.
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100% . Over here people are getting tiny homes imported from china. I recently lost a job i was to do for a mate as he believes it more cost effective to imprort a building than me make it. It will almost certainly bite him on the arse but he will be broke and ive lost work.
My comment on another thread about robot lawn mowers was kinda serious.
Its far from just a few gardners feeling the pinch, one of many examples, outfits are using drones to spray paint roofs. That affects not just painters but the scalfolders and companies that hire out access equipment. When 10, 15, 20? % of IT workers in the cbd are unemployed, that means whatever % lunch bars are not needed, x % of cleaners, x% of office space no longer needed. Some of these things may sound like positives but they aint. Tradesman not making money means fewer van and tool sales etc and so on ( yoall are probably well aware how it works)!
Unfortunately most people seem oblivious to what is on the horizon. AI is a bigger threat than any made up pandemic...
 
Chizel - Founding Father said:
Unfortunately though, when AI takes thousands of IT jobs those people will be forced to look for other sources of income and that most likely will be turning their hand to manual labor.
I dont believe trades people will be safe at all. More people competing for contracts ( even if they dont have a clue) ultimately lowers wages. When the eastern Europeans started flooding into the uk it dropped wages in the trades drastically. Even though they might have been shit, people would rather pay 50 a day than 150.
Also with so many IT workers etc out of work, who are the trades going to work for? It will be cut throat to fuck!!!!
I dont think im exaggerating here, job losses due to AI have started and they will snowball rapidly.
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Im not remotely worried 😘
 
Chizel - Founding Father said:
100% . Over here people are getting tiny homes imported from china. I recently lost a job i was to do for a mate as he believes it more cost effective to imprort a building than me make it. It will almost certainly bite him on the arse but he will be broke and ive lost work.
My comment on another thread about robot lawn mowers was kinda serious.
Its far from just a few gardners feeling the pinch, one of many examples, outfits are using drones to spray paint roofs. That affects not just painters but the scalfolders and companies that hire out access equipment. When 10, 15, 20? % of IT workers in the cbd are unemployed, that means whatever % lunch bars are not needed, x % of cleaners, x% of office space no longer needed. Some of these things may sound like positives but they aint. Tradesman not making money means fewer van and tool sales etc and so on ( yoall are probably well aware how it works)!
Unfortunately most people seem oblivious to what is on the horizon. AI is a bigger threat than any made up pandemic...
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It's ever changing - not just Ai

Have you ever watched Jaberwocky? Set in medieval times - the main character played by Michael Palin is the son of a cooper who's main customer sells fish (Warren Mitchell) and used barrels to transport it. One time they couldn't get the barrels so the fish guy looked for alternatives and realised that new-fangled sacks would do the job much cheaper. So like that the cooper lost his biggest customer. That's only about 1 minute of the film, not the storyline. It's a good film.

What I'm saying is, that these things evolve. How many IT people will go into setting up systems that interface with Ai's - or into teaching people how to use it effectively? No one is guaranteed a job for life - what happened to printing firms with the introduction of PCs?

Ai is a part of IT - as a sector IT will be growing hugely, so other opportunities within it will be created.
 
I’m not convinced AI will replace jobs in professions like IT long term.

For instance, online ‘virtual assistants’ (basically AI) on shop websites - has anyone ever got a meaningful answer from one, other than constantly asking ‘talk to a person’ until a person responds ?
 
Dox said:
It's ever changing - not just Ai

Have you ever watched Jaberwocky? Set in medieval times - the main character played by Michael Palin is the son of a cooper who's main customer sells fish (Warren Mitchell) and used barrels to transport it. One time they couldn't get the barrels so the fish guy looked for alternatives and realised that new-fangled sacks would do the job much cheaper. So like that the cooper lost his biggest customer. That's only about 1 minute of the film, not the storyline. It's a good film.

What I'm saying is, that these things evolve. How many IT people will go into setting up systems that interface with Ai's - or into teaching people how to use it effectively? No one is guaranteed a job for life - what happened to printing firms with the introduction of PCs?

Ai is a part of IT - as a sector IT will be growing hugely, so other opportunities within it will be created.
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Millions of jobs have been lost to new technologies over the years, lives too and although we have always come out the other side the better for it?, it didnt help those at the time. Whos to say weather it will take a few months of hardship or many years ? We will only know after it has played out. Personally though, i think the information revolution has alot of evil behind it and if you think the covid pandemic saw the largest transfer of money from poor to rich, i say you aint seen nothing yet..
These are just one mans musings though . its 4.30am, my shoulder is killing and and ive just comfort eaten and entire pack of ginger chunk biscuits so im probably just a tad more unhinged than normal...
 
The skitz said:
Im not remotely worried 😘
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If ya in a position financially were you can take anything thrown at ya without a worry, more power to ya!
However, if and when a global depression does come, people may develop an eat the rich mentality, you might not be sitting so pretty then!!
Although you would probably taste all stringy and tough so you might be ok...
 
Chizel - Founding Father said:
If ya in a position financially were you can take anything thrown at ya without a worry, more power to ya!
However, if and when a global depression does come, people may develop an eat the rich mentality, you might not be sitting so pretty then!!
Although you would probably taste all stringy and tough so you might be ok...
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Fuck all to do with money .. not a single fucker i know in IT would be remotely capable of my job .. im sure there are some but fuck all percentage wise most would struggle to sweep a square room without missing the corners 😆
 
The skitz said:
Fuck all to do with money .. not a single fucker i know in IT would be remotely capable of my job .. im sure there are some but fuck all percentage wise most would struggle to sweep a square room without missing the corners 😆
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That's the definition of "artificial intelligence" for me. Educated to degree level in pushing a mouse around and prodding buttons on a device that cannot really create anything but strings of numbers, yet incapable of the most basic physical tasks that underpin human survival. It's reverse evolution.
 
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