1098R - The project that was never meant to be.

[AirCon]

What's wrong sweetie - you make loads of typo's and as the forum grammar queen when I point them out in jest you go back through loads of posts dishing out drama queens as some sort of revenge - so I stopped pulling you up about it as I didn't want to upset you


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Distraction doesn't work with me. You made the error/typo then tried to cover it up..... it's all still there above... Sweetie....

 

[Robarano]

Hmmm @Exige He never went as mental as I thought. What's he done with the real @AirCon ?

 

[AirCon]

Hmmm @Exige He never went as mental as I thought. What's he done with the real @AirCon ?

Of all the experiments I'd like to do with waterless Coolant I don't think I'd choose the 1098R as the test vehicle... especially given their escalating value.

 

[Robarano]

Of all the experiments I'd like to do with waterless Coolant I don't think I'd choose the 1098R as the test vehicle... especially given there escalating value.

 

[AirCon]

Balls I noticed it and corrected..... not sure if you beat me to it.

Oh hang on... you missed it... but made another important point.

 

[Exige]

Hmmm @Exige He never went as mental as I thought. What's he done with the real @AirCon ?

Strange, he’s a bit upset about my typo though, and I wasn’t allowed to correct it or did he manipulate it, was it ever there

 

[sev]

very boring and mundane question... but how does the seat unit bolt on with the R models?

 

[Andyb]

very boring and mundane question... but how does the seat unit bolt on with the R models?

wrong place mate.......you need someone that actually rides the thing or uses it rather than thinking its all about making money....

 

[Robarano]

very boring and mundane question... but how does the seat unit bolt on with the R models?

The same as all the other 1098's I think. It's just a carbon effort instead of plastic.

 

[Robarano]

wrong place mate.......you need someone that actually rides the thing or uses it rather than thinking its all about making money....

Who are you on about now?

 

[sev]

The same as all the other 1098's I think. It's just a carbon effort instead of plastic.

So they still have the removable pillion seat cover panel? I thought that the R tail was a one piece wonder.

 

[Robarano]

So they still have the removable pillion seat cover panel? I thought that the R tail was a one piece wonder.

No pillion seat, they are one piece. I think they just bolt on in the same way.

 

[sev]

so what happens at the back? does it just flop around or are there hidden screws?

 

[Robarano]

so what happens at the back? does it just flop around or are there hidden screws?

I can't remember, but it doesn't flop about. It probably does bolt on at the back somewhere.

Here's my spare from underneath

 

[sev]

I can't remember, but it doesn't flop about. It probably soes bolt on at the back somewhere.

Here's my spare from underneath

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ohh that's interesting, so there's a secondary structure bonded underneath to mimic the depression in the biposto / S seat unit. by the look of those slots and mounting holes around the perimeter something clips into them? So those side cover panels actually seem to do a lot of work, not just hiding the gap between the seat and tank.

 

[sev]

does the R have a different gearbox ratio than the normal S models?
How do you find riding it when caught in traffic etc?

 

[Robarano]

does the R have a different gearbox ratio than the normal S models?
How do you find riding it when caught in traffic etc?

Mine has a NOVA box, with close ratios.

Apparently according to Wikipedia, the 1098 & 1098S (left) have different ratios to the 1098R (right)

As mine was a guy's track day toy before I bought it, it has a rear sprocket the size of a milk bottle top and I never bothered to change it So could be better in traffic. Don't use it in traffic, I find works.

 

[sev]

nice.
SO when you say could be better in traffic due to the nova box, what are we talking - anything below 50 and it won't go into second or just jerky horrible vile as you spend your time in 1st?

The interesting thing for me is that it's not a lost cause on the road due to that gearbox, just annoying - yes?

 

[Robarano]

nice.
SO when you say could be better in traffic due to the nova box, what are we talking - anything below 50 and it won't go into second or just jerky horrible vile as you spend your time in 1st?

The interesting thing for me is that it's not a lost cause on the road due to that gearbox, just annoying - yes?

If you do get stuck in traffic, you just have to ride the clutch a little at very low speeds. But that's not what this bike is for, so I make sure I use it out in the sticks. Like I say, I could change the rear sprocket but it's not as issue on the move. You can also see the NOVA ratios below where 1st is somewhere between 1st and 2nd of the standard bike.

Basically, the thing is a race bike.

 

[sev]

If you do get stuck in traffic, you just have to ride the clutch a little at very low speeds. But that's not what this bike is for, so I make sure I use it out in the sticks. Like I say, I could change the rear sprocket but it's not as issue on the move. You can also see the NOVA ratios below where 1st is somewhere between 1st and 2nd of the standard bike.

cool. thats what we like to hear.

So you didn't think about putting a big moon sprocket on the thing and hanging on for uncontrollable dear life giggling like a loon into oncoming traffic then?

 

[Robarano]

cool. thats what we like to hear.

So you didn't think about putting a big moon sprocket on the thing and hanging on for uncontrollable dear life giggling like a loon into oncoming traffic then?

I went on the NOVA site earlier as the gear ratio table I shared above on NOVA ratios didn't look right for 1st gear. 28T / 16T = 1.75 : 1 and they quote 2.00 : 1

1st gear on my bike feels like 2nd on most other bikes and a ratio of 1.75 would take it close to the 2nd gear of a standard gearbox.

The NOVA site gives those ratios but does state 2.00 : 1 All of the other ratios seem correct.

 

[Andyb]

I went on the NOVA site earlier as the gear ration table I shared above on NOVA ratios didn't look right for 1st gear. 28T / 16T = 1.75 : 1 and they quote 2.00 : 1

1st gear on my bike feels like 2nd on most other bikes and a ratio of 1.75 would take it close to the 2nd gear of a standard gearbox.

The NOVA site gives those ratios but does state 2.00 : 1 All of the other ratios seem correct.

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1.75-1 is the lounge setting
2.0-1 I understand is for terraced houses with a lounge/diner

 

[Robarano]

1.75-1 is the lounge setting
2.0-1 I understand is for terraced houses with a lounge/diner

Interesting. Is it the same if you have 4 of the magnificent beasts?

 

[Exige]

Interesting. Is it the same if you have 4 of the magnificent beasts?

Mine all live in different parts of the house - one in the front ‘on the road’ bike garage garage, one in the rear garage, one behind the sofa and one in the bike room - it’s so utterly wonderful

 

[Robarano]

Mine all live in different parts of the house - one in the front ‘on the road’ bike garage garage, one in the rear garage, one behind the sofa and one in the bike room - it’s so utterly wonderful

Do you need different gear ratios depending on what part of the house they are in?

I would imagine you need a low gear for getting them up the stairs into the bedroom. So maybe use a one with a standard box for that, and not the tall 1st gear of the NOVA.

 

[final_edition]

As the input shaft has a fixed first gear and they quote a 16t gear. The output would be 32t as a good guess.

 

[Robarano]

As the input shaft has a fixed first gear and they quote a 16t gear. The output would be 32t as a good guess.

You would think so, wouldn't you as the output gears get smaller as you go up the box, apart from 1st. I think you're right, I think it's a typo and should be 32T.

 

[Exige]

Do you need different gear ratios depending on what part of the house they are in?

I would imagine you need a low gear for getting them up the stairs into the bedroom. So maybe use a one with a standard box for that, and not the tall 1st gear of the NOVA.

Bikes upstairs, don’t be silly

 

[Robarano]

Bikes upstairs, don’t be silly

Bookmarked.

 

[final_edition]

Bikes upstairs, don’t be silly

Every room is needed for Eastern European pleasure ladies.