I don't think it is. I've had long chats with Ian and Butch on advertising policy and i genuinely think Ian is trying to get feedback on a difficult subject. I knew when I created that banner link it would eventually prompt a reaction TBH thats why I did it, the DSC needs to look at where its going and what needs changing. Age, Antonye and more have their clubs advertised, upnorth is just the same and its not like we are doing it to take DSC members, just the opposite, by growing upnorth and promoting DSC events like the trackdays it could encourage people to join. its not an us and them, the DSC does offer certain benefits, it might not to some here but it will to others. its the same with DOC and UKMOC, if Ducati owners find upnorth and then decide to join a club because their friends or riding buddies are a member thats part of why its here, I'd hope they still consider themselves an upnorth member as well. i think most of you know my goal has always been to unite owners, I feel there isn't enough up here for 2 or 3 clubs and by working together we can get a active community without losing our individual club roots.