Does anyone know if it is possible to change the st2 &4 widemouth frog headlight, for the st3 vfr style and if so, I pressume you would need a 3 style upper fairing as well, so do they fit?
I'm fine John. Good to see you here.Hi Derek, hope your well.
To be fair this was the law back in the mid 2000s when I fitted them.
I appreciate its potentially likely to fail an Mot, but so is a small number plate, or a set of noisy exhausts
The point I made above about fitting lamps with correct focal length was for exactly that reason, the light source is where it needs to be, so the reflectors / projectors work correctly without light dispersion or splatter.
I do agree that if someone was to try to fit a D2S lamp into a headlight unit, unless they know what they are doing it will not work right.
I did a lot of research prior to fitting the kit. Spoke with the company at length. At the time I was involved in working out how to fit these to certain cars. Some worked great, others less so. On the ST they work great.
I had HID units on my ST4S for 6 years, and then fitted a pair (later version with separate ballasts and ignitors) to my 2010 multi. They got moved to my 2012 multi when I bought it, and are still there, working fine.
So in 16 years on 3 bikes, I've never had an issue with any MoT place. The wiring all looks 'right', not messed about with
In practice the new Multi LED headlights are just as bright, if not brighter than the HID lamps. Some of this is due to their colour.
All the best,
I had 6,500K originally, which were great for being seen but subsequently changed to 4,300K which were better for seeing with.I know they upgraded the hid mot rules but I have to say in all of the bikes I've had mot'd, the bike tester has never had an issue with hid and one or two have agreed that that they are beneficial if fitted properly. I tended to go for the 6000k kits as they seemed to reach peak white with the slightest of blue tinges similar to audi's but on average I found between 4500k-6000k was the range to see it as a benefit. Anything higher seems to go blue purple and attracts plod and anything lower seemed to be more yellower.
The full led lights on my new car if would say are far more "fuck me that's bright" than any one the bikes I've hid converted but as you say Derek, they have updated the mot rules and on paper, they would fail the mot if the tester was of a mind too
70's headlight on a 00's bike I always thought it was just my crap eyesightThat's the ST comfort fairing kit. It comprised a different higher screen and a slightly different top fairing with a cover to split the headlight into two sections. It is just the same crap headlight though.